Comments for take 1 moment http://1moment.org think, read & write for 1moment.org Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:45:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on Microsoft meshed up by moritzschroeder http://1moment.org/2008/04/24/microsoft-meshed-up/#comment-2486 moritzschroeder Sun, 04 May 2008 17:43:06 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-2486 Hi Nick, long time, we should have a chat soon. I don't remember a Mac client apart from PopG solution... I left the Groove Biz shortly after MS bought it's first stake of 20%, I think that was in 2002. I wrote then in the Groove forum, that Groove will be slowly swallowed up in the MS Windows / Office world. I was very sad, discussed a lot of strategy outcome with Andy, PopG was in the early stages and we had another project which was called xgroove. I observed the development a little longer and then decided it was time to quit the Groove world. I supported Andy wherever I could and that was how we met in France :-) . MS taking over in 2005 was IMHO just the last nail in the coffin. Ray Ozzie and his gang created something potentially powerful but somehow feared to go the whole way... Hi Nick, long time, we should have a chat soon. I don’t remember a Mac client apart from PopG solution… I left the Groove Biz shortly after MS bought it’s first stake of 20%, I think that was in 2002. I wrote then in the Groove forum, that Groove will be slowly swallowed up in the MS Windows / Office world. I was very sad, discussed a lot of strategy outcome with Andy, PopG was in the early stages and we had another project which was called xgroove. I observed the development a little longer and then decided it was time to quit the Groove world. I supported Andy wherever I could and that was how we met in France :-) . MS taking over in 2005 was IMHO just the last nail in the coffin. Ray Ozzie and his gang created something potentially powerful but somehow feared to go the whole way…

]]> Comment on Microsoft meshed up by Nick Daisley http://1moment.org/2008/04/24/microsoft-meshed-up/#comment-2485 Nick Daisley Sat, 03 May 2008 09:28:37 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=43#comment-2485 Groove's time has been and gone - other, cheaper and more genuinely viral technologies have taken over the great majority of its space - but I can't help but remember there were ways of using it on Macs, PDAs, low-spec computers etc, and they seemed to be going somewhere. M$ bought Groove Networks in March 2005, and buried it. That is to say, they did nothing progressive with it for over a year, they kept the existing developer community out of the loop with respect to developments, they were confused and unprogressive in finding a marketing model for it, and were not fast enough on their feet to understand that you can't do that with an online product in today's environment. Groove’s time has been and gone - other, cheaper and more genuinely viral technologies have taken over the great majority of its space - but I can’t help but remember there were ways of using it on Macs, PDAs, low-spec computers etc, and they seemed to be going somewhere.

M$ bought Groove Networks in March 2005, and buried it. That is to say, they did nothing progressive with it for over a year, they kept the existing developer community out of the loop with respect to developments, they were confused and unprogressive in finding a marketing model for it, and were not fast enough on their feet to understand that you can’t do that with an online product in today’s environment.

]]> Comment on No, this blog is not about bikes… by I_am_n_alien http://1moment.org/2006/10/17/no-this-blog-is-not-about-bikes/#comment-2483 I_am_n_alien Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:34:25 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/no-this-blog-is-not-about-bikes/#comment-2483 Yeah!! (Wrings hands)! Nice blog you have here. I've enjoyed much reading your last posts. Keep it that way. Yeah!! (Wrings hands)! Nice blog you have here. I’ve enjoyed much reading your last posts. Keep it that way.

]]> Comment on Fooling around by timethief http://1moment.org/2008/03/20/fooling-around/#comment-2482 timethief Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:51:20 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-2482 I think you are missing my point. My point is that you are addressing the question(s) to the wrong target. The correct targets are Matt and Toni. Also, I assume that whatever 3rd party contractual agreements are entered into with Automattic will contain the "non-disclosure" clauses that are common in the business world. And, as such those details will not become "community" property. I think you are missing my point. My point is that you are addressing the question(s) to the wrong target. The correct targets are Matt and Toni. Also, I assume that whatever 3rd party contractual agreements are entered into with Automattic will contain the “non-disclosure” clauses that are common in the business world. And, as such those details will not become “community” property.

]]> Comment on Fooling around by moritzschroeder http://1moment.org/2008/03/20/fooling-around/#comment-2479 moritzschroeder Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:25:20 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-2479 Thanks again. I am aware of the difference. Technically it might be a fork, though there still are a lot of common threads. Automattic (via it's developers and founders)is contributing to the org project. Why not using some successful open source principles to the wordpress.com service? For example simply submitting online a piece of code, having online documentation, what the contracts with Automattic will say, do developers / 3rd party services have to pay in order to offer wordpress.com widgets etc...? What are the criteria for wordpress.com to decide yes/no for a particular widget, are there any guidelines or is it a case by case decision? And why not opening those processes (yes, no, technically insufficient) more to the community? Commercial service does not necessarily mean to have intransparent processes. I am also asking because I am involved in a project which will produce widgets, though it is too early present something, I am very interested in how this would work with Automattic. Thanks again. I am aware of the difference. Technically it might be a fork, though there still are a lot of common threads. Automattic (via it’s developers and founders)is contributing to the org project.

Why not using some successful open source principles to the wordpress.com service? For example simply submitting online a piece of code, having online documentation, what the contracts with Automattic will say, do developers / 3rd party services have to pay in order to offer wordpress.com widgets etc…? What are the criteria for wordpress.com to decide yes/no for a particular widget, are there any guidelines or is it a case by case decision?

And why not opening those processes (yes, no, technically insufficient) more to the community? Commercial service does not necessarily mean to have intransparent processes.

I am also asking because I am involved in a project which will produce widgets, though it is too early present something, I am very interested in how this would work with Automattic.

]]> Comment on Fooling around by timethief http://1moment.org/2008/03/20/fooling-around/#comment-2478 timethief Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:24:52 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-2478 <blockquote> Why not opening a venue that powerusers and developers could explore, for example opening up the widget system? Having more community involvement in establishing, running and maybe even certifying widgets.</blockquote> Hi again, I assume that you are aware of the differeneces between wordpress.<strong>org</strong> and wordpress.<strong>com</strong> but if you are unsure of them then you can find the sticky post at the head of the support forums. Wordpress.<strong>com</strong> is a fork. It's a project owned by the Automattic Corporation. Automattic has contracted with many widget providers like vodpod, etc. and I'm sure that Toni and Matt will welcome other 3rd party providers who wish to provide specific widgets under contract to Automattic for wordpress.com. As far as "the community" I really have a hard time grasping what is meant by this terminology in the corporate context. I have expanded beyond the free hosted version of wordpress.<strong>com</strong> by hiring a web host and by downloading a free wp install from wordpress.org. As far as BlogSpot goes I had been there and done that before I came to wordpress.com but if you haven't then maybe that's a better choice for you. Cheers

Why not opening a venue that powerusers and developers could explore, for example opening up the widget system? Having more community involvement in establishing, running and maybe even certifying widgets.

Hi again,
I assume that you are aware of the differeneces between wordpress.org and wordpress.com but if you are unsure of them then you can find the sticky post at the head of the support forums.

WordPress.com is a fork. It’s a project owned by the Automattic Corporation. Automattic has contracted with many widget providers like vodpod, etc. and I’m sure that Toni and Matt will welcome other 3rd party providers who wish to provide specific widgets under contract to Automattic for wordpress.com.

As far as “the community” I really have a hard time grasping what is meant by this terminology in the corporate context.

I have expanded beyond the free hosted version of wordpress.com by hiring a web host and by downloading a free wp install from wordpress.org.

As far as BlogSpot goes I had been there and done that before I came to wordpress.com but if you haven’t then maybe that’s a better choice for you.

Cheers

]]> Comment on Fooling around by moritzschroeder http://1moment.org/2008/03/20/fooling-around/#comment-2477 moritzschroeder Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:37:24 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-2477 Thanks for that response. I understand and always understood that allowing Javascript is very very tricky. I also understand the rationale behind Automattic decision not to allow it. Why not opening a venue that powerusers and developers could explore, for example opening up the widget system? Having more community involvement in establishing, running and maybe even certifying widgets. Once a widget is certified it could not only be used in the sidebar, but also integrated in posts, a bit like YouTube & co videos are... I love wordpress.com, but I increasingly think of expanding and exploring beyond wordpress.com, like <a href="http://creativecombinations.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">creativecombinations</a>. Thanks for that response. I understand and always understood that allowing Javascript is very very tricky. I also understand the rationale behind Automattic decision not to allow it.
Why not opening a venue that powerusers and developers could explore, for example opening up the widget system? Having more community involvement in establishing, running and maybe even certifying widgets. Once a widget is certified it could not only be used in the sidebar, but also integrated in posts, a bit like YouTube & co videos are…
I love wordpress.com, but I increasingly think of expanding and exploring beyond wordpress.com, like creativecombinations.

]]> Comment on Fooling around by timethief http://1moment.org/2008/03/20/fooling-around/#comment-2475 timethief Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:15:46 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-2475 (1) WordPress.com is a multiuser blogging platform. We cannot access or edit our templates here. If we were allowed to do so then any changes one blogger made to their template would likewise be made to every other blog with the same theme. (2) Javascript is not allowed on this multiuser blogging platform for security reaasons. Blogs are served from {name}.wordpress.com. The Wordpress cookie is delivered to any site that ends in wordpress.com. Any Javascript on the page is legitimately allowed to look up cookies that would be sent to the domain it’s served from. This means that if you can run Javascript on a hosted Wordpress page, you can retrieve the login cookie from another Wordpress user, and then pass it to an external site. (Generally by creating an image reference that includes the encoded login cookie.) This is just a basic part of the underlying technology of the web browser, and it’s required for sites like gmail, Yahoo!, and others to operate. There are ways a site can avoid this problem (generally by constantly changing the login cookie data with EVERY response, and invalidating the old ones immediately), but they require more horsepower on the backend than the blogging sites are really able to provide, and there’s still usually a small window of opportunity. This is why Livejournal, Wordpress, and most other hosted sites disallow Javascript on their pages. I hope that helps! Happy blogging! (1) WordPress.com is a multiuser blogging platform. We cannot access or edit our templates here. If we were allowed to do so then any changes one blogger made to their template would likewise be made to every other blog with the same theme.

(2) Javascript is not allowed on this multiuser blogging platform for security reaasons. Blogs are served from {name}.wordpress.com. The WordPress cookie is delivered to any site that ends in wordpress.com. Any Javascript on the page is legitimately allowed to look up cookies that would be sent to the domain it’s served from.

This means that if you can run Javascript on a hosted WordPress page, you can retrieve the login cookie from another WordPress user, and then pass it to an external site. (Generally by creating an image reference that includes the encoded login cookie.)

This is just a basic part of the underlying technology of the web browser, and it’s required for sites like gmail, Yahoo!, and others to operate.

There are ways a site can avoid this problem (generally by constantly changing the login cookie data with EVERY response, and invalidating the old ones immediately), but they require more horsepower on the backend than the blogging sites are really able to provide, and there’s still usually a small window of opportunity.

This is why Livejournal, WordPress, and most other hosted sites disallow Javascript on their pages. I hope that helps!

Happy blogging!

]]> Comment on Berlin web 2.0 expo(sed) by lothar schulz http://1moment.org/2007/11/07/berlin-web-20-exposed/#comment-2471 lothar schulz Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:55:28 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/berlin-web-20-exposed/#comment-2471 Happy new year! Happy new year!

]]> Comment on Big Bike Business by Cathy http://1moment.org/2006/11/08/big-bike-business/#comment-2460 Cathy Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:31:08 +0000 http://1moment.wordpress.com/2006/11/08/big-bike-business/#comment-2460 I have a Rixe Tandem bike in good condition, how wwould I determine the value of it? cathy @ picky1111@yahoo.com I have a Rixe Tandem bike in good condition, how wwould I determine the value of it?

cathy @ picky1111@yahoo.com

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